He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is I dont agree with a lot of his views, but he said something and it is true, we need to have, you know, church leader needs to have two voices, one for gathering the sheep and one for scaring away wolves. Also, major problems. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. The vanilla bean is incredibly hard to harvest. Briscoe Board members selected in such a way are unlikely to honor their fiduciary duty ahead of their desire to please the board chairman or senior pastor. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. There are therapy notes to support her story. That to me, is a corruption of the role. And we need to apologize. Many organizations that have a board of directors consisting of yes men or yes women who are inclined to go along with the board chairman and/or are friends with them. In fact, back in the late 80s, early 90s, we went to Willow Creek and we had a wonderful experience. Or what is the church think about Calvinism? something along those lines. I just want to say this was not someone who acted on any behavior at our church, but had someone who was in the process of grooming someone else. Lets say you have you have six or eight members who are saying, Guys, we need to fire this person. I think he lost it. That was my upbringing. At least, thats how I saw it. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. To view their entire showroom online. Basically, theyre a rubber stamp. But I guess this is the question so many are asking is, Can anybody be in those kind of jobs with the kind of responsibility that is put on one human, one person to lead thousands of people? And so many looking to him for vision for leadership for everything. You formed a nonprofit corporation. Can you imagine what that does for book sales to be on stage at the Global Leadership Summit among people all over the world and touted as an expert in something? Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? I agree, Pastor Bob. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. And Hybels said, essentially, Yeah, well, well do it that way. And Clinton showed up and then didnt comply with anything that the board had said. This is a person who is pushing a boundary because they want to do something bad. And yet, they lost the PR battle, which is unbelievable. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? Well, Mitch, this has been read. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. Pete was preaching from Hebrews, and he was making the New Covenant come alive before all of us. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray I dont think I could survive the corruption I see today had I not seen so much thats good and beautiful in the church growing up. I cant vouch for all the information because I havent researched it myself. So when you have someone who is trusted, whos supposed to be an expert, you know, like a pastor, like a longtime senior pastor whos supposed to be a theological expert, and someone whos in authority like a senior pastor, people are willing to do things to satisfy that person that they would not otherwise do, even if those things seem harmful to another person. We are egalitarian and sophisticated, and we are Gods chosen church to show how ministry is supposed to be done. Jill Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. And if you are not willing to as an organism, or as an organization say, We messed up. And thats one of the things that I just come back to is that the word hypocrisy in the Greek the word that comes from that means actor. Thats a bad default state. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. it is. But when we look at it from some practical ways that God used people to undo this, explain what you see as being the key forces. Thank you so much. Jesus said, I call you My friend. In another area, it might be used to groom someone and use vulnerability as a mechanism to draw people into something that is corrupt. He was like one of these, I think until Scot decided to speak up, it was, Willow had credulity to say, These are people outside our tribe who are criticizing us. And my understanding was the elder board set some boundaries for Clinton to be able to come and speak. But as you say its Gods grace that despite all that hes used these men to bless many, despite everything. It was the summer of 2000, and I was a college student on staff at Pine Cove Christian Camp. At one point, the elder board at Willow became what people call a policy governance board. Well, and it troubles me too, that so many of our Christian organizations seem to be more beholden to lawyers advice and counsel than they do the Word of God. I think youre absolutely right about that. Petes teaching and emphasis on the sufficiency of Christ leaves an indelible mark on so many of our souls. That goes to the guarding role that Attorney Mitch shared. I learned that from Bill. Stuart and Jill Briscoe have always had a passion for teaching God's Word and speaking Truth into people's hearts and moving them toward God. But other than that, you know, there just werent a lot of people in the larger church speaking and there had to have been a lot of church leaders who knew about what was going on and knew that there were problems with Bill Hybels. And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. Nobody has said they had intercourse with Bill. In our church, we have a no tolerance policy. Let me give you some examples. The priests who cross the street, right? And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. Its so HARD today to know who to donate to. And Im like, Ive never seen a spiritual leader ever, ever have that sort of self disclosure in front of the church before he preaches. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. Okay, how it didnt bring accountability. Theyre not holding anybody accountable then. And it had all of these allies not just in the media, but among the angelical industrial complex, other megachurch pastors, everything. And now lets put that in the past. Willow did not want to reckon with the deformed culture that had manifested underneath Bills leadership. I wonder, I wonder what effect that might have had on them. You can choose from more than 60 majors and learn in a Christian environment known for its spiritual values, leadership opportunities, and strong financial aid. Was there any evidence found that he actually had an affair? and I found these people in those imperfect churches! Theres, theres an advocacy piece to lawyering that needs to be there a little bit, but it doesnt need to be pervasive. And then everyone could say, Oh, how sad that that one person did that one thing. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. What eventually broke the culture of secrecy and protection? The small tape recording process drew the attention of many people who were eager for a copy of the teaching they heard at church to share with friends and neighbors. I think there were a few major events. Whats our theology? So if you think of Willow as being a living thing, we are willing to put other things to death on the altar of preserving that organism. https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. What I need most is what I dont have. Like they didnt read a book, figuring out how to do it, but there are warning signs that people need to be aware of. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. Inside their system, they need to be guarded, governed, guided. Do we have a theology of goodness at our church? And basically, my understanding is his cavalier attitude was, Well, Ill just pick up and Ill open a new church down the street [if] you dont you dont like me the way I am.. Who hasnt given a friend a friendly kiss once in awhile? How are you? Do you understand what Im saying? Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. And if you think its not, you know, go and look in your church building right now, if youre quarantined under COVID, or youre not gathering. Because they were required to move by unanimity. 1 talking about this. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Its biblical. Its designed to be fought asymmetrically. And so when you see behaviors that look like grooming, you know, John Calvin, Im not a Calvinist. Because they, I mean, they had a massive PR machine they had, they hired Mark DeMoss, his firm to come in and try to resolve things from a PR standpoint. Because it was lawyers advice, you know, and its like, where does the word of God play into our decision making? The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. Multiple services, being able to do it on cue, proves Hybels theatrical abilitiesI look back and feel sick, given all the details we now know from behind the scenes. Its good to be visiting with you again. This is Chicago Tribune. This is people who are dissillusioned, who wanted big jobs at Willow and didnt get them. But when Scot, the the intra tribal dissenter steps up and says, This is wrong, things shifted. It is a collection of people. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is etc. I totally agree with you Julie on how I viewed the Clergy and Church growing up. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. I want to thank Pete too for advocating for women participating fully in leadership and for Libby modeling what it means to be a true helper (ezer kenegdo). It started as a simple tape duplication ministry in a home basement, using a reel-to-reel tape recorder linked to a dozen smaller recorders to duplicate the Briscoes' teaching. I am thrilled to be here. I will always have my faith in Jesus but church especially WCCC has been a huge disappointment. Dear anonymous. My personal belief, not speaking on behalf of anyone else, my personal belief is that that structure is designed to fail, because elders cant elder in that structure. So Mitch, thank you so much for taking the time to join me today. He was running and we were praying that he would surrender fully to God. And Willow just, they got killed because they wouldnt respond and say the truth. Like so many of you, I love Pete. God uses the faithful and generous support of people like you to continue to change lives through the ministry of Telling the Truth. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. And I feel that way with these pastors. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. I came out of Wheaton College, as I know a lot of kids do when youre in a Christian environment and maybe see some disillusioning things and I just, it was really a hard spiritual time for me. And this is a huge problem in the Evangelical Church in the southern baptist church, I mean, just absolutely massive problem where so often the predators covered up instead of brought to justice. It was everything from Vonda Dyers situation of being asked to come up to Bills room and talk leadership and a forced kiss, you know, a grab around the waist. So you caught them before that anything actually happened? And gratitude is where we must go in this time, as Kurt Baxter reminded us on Sunday. Yeah, were all saints who sometimes sin. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! And thankyou for all you do in the NAME of JESUS! Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. Many more than even Vonda Dyer knew. This person or these people were hurt as a result, you have a pride problem. I thought that emails could always be recovered, even after being erased, by a good IT person. Its How do we protect the entity and the entity as expressed through the person of Bill Hybels? Once you make that decision that youre willing to protect the entity or the person in charge of the entity to the detriment of members of the body or members of the staff, youve made some poor choices that are going to have consequences. And while youre at it, wed really appreciate it if you help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review and then please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. Yes, I have be disillusioned many times by churches and some leaders. Like so many of you, I love Pete. Briscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. I was kind of thrust into the middle of it out of love for wanting to help my friends and man, that thing escalated pretty quickly. To me, Bill did not come across as a predator, flirty or suggestive with women. But its an analog. "For many of you, he was preacher, pastor, mentor or friend. He makes sure the good things stay in the church and the bad things go out. And someone Im extremely glad is serving in church leadership. I think ultimately, we are still kind of under the inertia of a culture that was fomented by Pete Briscoe, which was a culture of goodness, a culture of grace and its still carrying forward under that momentum. As a lawyer whos represented some of Bill Hybels victims Mitch Little has seen a side of Willow Creek that few others have. So your pastor, he chose himself to step down, correct? I was blown away. The church said in essence, Tsk, tsk. I know for a fact that his article was circulated among the staff at Willow, and they crossed the Rubicon of credulity. But it just has not really looked like true repentance in so many ways. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. And I remember you saying once that you had gotten a manual, I think it was from the ECFA, and boy, we could talk about them. Not so much at Willow till after, because I was so wrapped up in the Harvest stuff at that time and the Moody stuff that I didnt really have the capability or the bandwidth to do much reporting about Willow. But theres a sense that the Church of Jesus Christ Universal is represented all throughout not just the United States but the world. And this is whats so difficult. So I was quite taken aback when this scandal came out. Yeah, I think youre gonna be waiting a while. One of those women is Vonda Dyer. You know, I believe in spiritual strongholds and things like that. Great! Hes also a strong believer and advocate for abuse victims. Vonda was at one time the director of Willow Creeks vocal ministry, and she was one of the first women to come forward and speak publicly about Bill Hybels alleged sexual misconduct. He is with us today to talk about growing communication skills to improve preaching as well as how we can find deeper fulfillment in our work and lives. Not sad or contemplative, but agitated and very irritated. Please note, our website requires JavaScript to be supported. Well Mitch, one of the things Ive never discussed is that we used to attend Willow Creek. Churches sometimes need advocates outside their system. Thats what he was. Great question. Theres a lot of church boards that operate that way. To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." I appreciate your feedback. Hes also the chairman of the elder board and his own church, Bent Tree Fellowship. How do you get people to come to church when there are more authentic people in the bars? At the same time. I think there was a culture of pride at Willow that basically said, We are the elite of the Christian world. I think that was a move of God, a move of the Holy Spirit. Absolutely. And I think you hit the nail on the head. Right. He is with us today to talk about growing communication skills to improve preaching as well as how we can find deeper fulfillment in our work and lives. Frankly I find church to be excruciatingly lonely. And I have other thoughts about that and how that all worked out. I hope you have a great day and God bless. However, whenever he would do that quavering voice, etc., I would wonder how he could do that for all three identical services? Later Telling the Truth began airing in several countries in southeast Asia and across 10 countries in southern Africa. When you have a woman who says I was molested by a staff member, or you have a staff member who says, Bill Hybels just threw a punch at me, or dog cuts me up and down the hallway, those arent matters of policy, Julie. And yet youre still in a megachurch, multi-site church. Please know you are not alone. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. I wasnt throughout the representation. And heres what we have to do as people leading churches, okay, you have to understand what the signs of grooming are so one of the things that I did that really helps me, my good friend, Boz Tchividjian, put out a book through his organization G.R.A.C.E. JULIE ROYS 23:38, What I meant by that comment is that unanimity didnt create any problems for the board and senior pastor because everyone agreed with James MacDonald. And youre in the process right now of looking for a senior pastor. Im good friends with Vonda Dyer, who worked at Willow and was one of the women who bravely came forward with her story about her interactions with Bill Hybels. And wasnt there something with Bill Clinton coming to the church and speaking? Right? I know from hearing from men, that that Bill abused men emotionally, spiritually while they were working there. The thief knows how to how to get through that lock, right? And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. He currently leads a multi-faceted media ministry called Telling the Truth which he shares with his parents Stuart and Jill Briscoe. The other woman that Mitch represented will remain confidential but both these cases enabled Mitch to peek behind the curtain at Willow Creek and view upclose some of the dysfunctions that led to that scandal. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both These are people that may be in the cubicle next to you at work, who have an acuity for blending in to normal life. Mitch has seen church governance from both the inside and the outside. Why did so many look the other way for so long? (See page 54 and following) Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. I havent seen a lot of true owning, true repenting, true confessing. The thing that is so terrifying is that someone who has been a senior pastor in an organization like that is not beyond it. I followed the Harvest situation, which I think is its own it, you know, separate facts. It is not a program is not a set of services. Youre its just not its not a matter of if its a matter of when. I think its incredibly dangerous. And so I do think its a healthy thing when youre afraid of doing wrong, because it will be brought up and you will be held accountable. So many people are looking the other way. So its more than flirty words or suggestions. For more information just go to JudsonU.edu. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. You know, when you have somebody like Bryan Loritts, who when hes talking about why when he was at a former church, he didnt disclose to the church that they had a sexual predator among them for six months. Why didnt others support them? It manifested at the Human Resources level. https://world.wng.org/sites/default/files/issues/pdf/world_sep012018.pdf, Also, Id encourage you to read the website below. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. They know there would be swift and sure discipline, if not firing, even with one mistakedepending on the severity of the misbehavior. And thats what, thats what you end up protecting right? Destroyed by a staff person is my understanding. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Just go to BuyACar123.com. I know the owners Dan and Kurt Marquart personally, and I can say without reservation that they truly run their business with honesty, integrity and transparency. They had these Global Leadership Summits. It is a collection of people that we are to care for. The cover up of his behavior manifested at the elder board level. This is just the way things are in Corinth. Im Julie Roys. Their board operated by unanimity as well. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. So Mitch has a very unique perspective. It is. He said, Pete, you should have one lawyer on your board but not more than one. And I believe that there is some really sound wisdom in that. And something else that you mentioned about the board, which I found fascinating was that the Willow Creek board had an awful lot of lawyers on it. And where does whats legally expedient for our organization? Well, one thing I did want to cover, and our time is getting to an end, but I know that you have dealt with having a sexual predator within your church. Petes leadership at Bent Tree casts a long shadow with a legacy that will endure. People can do the job of preaching and leading a church for, you know, 40 plus weeks in the pulpit at a church of this size. Its really pride. And I think there was, but I think that theres a spiritual stronghold around celebrity culture within evangelicalism writ large. John and Nancy Ortberg had been at Willow Creek as pastors. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe But I had limited contact with him. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is I think they can do it effectively. And he committed sex acts with her. It took a variety of forms. Yeah. James MacDonald was friends with Ed Stetzer. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. So Im very much looking forward to our time together today. If you want to know what grooming looks like in the context of church, every elder at a church of any size should read this book. My husband and I actually bought our last car from our court and we had a great experience. They didnt have the ability to move quickly. Today, Telling the Truthis heard anytime and anywhere, thanks to international radio programming, the internet, and our mobile app. You know, I think, Julie, the other thing that was really whacked out about Willows elder board, and I didnt find this out until very late in the representation was they operated by design out of unanimity. The church is literally a collection of people. Hes one of the good guys. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. I would probably have been among those who defended Bill saying, He couldnt have done these things; Hes too strong of a Christian leader. I see this culture as similar to the Corinthian church with the man who was involved with his fathers wife. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. Bill Hybels and Bill Clinton, you know, developed a friendship over the years that at least what Ive discovered in my research, there was an invitation for Clinton to come and speak at the Global Leadership Summit, and a confrontation with the elder board about that because Clinton was on the heels of an adultery scandal. But this certainly raises red flags. Why did so many look the other way for so long? So to some extent, we all have a measure of hypocrisy. And its so important, I think, for any of us who are doing any kind of ministry at all, if we get our identity wrapped up in what were doing, then what were doing is no longer ministry, its no longer service to the Lord. Our church came out in support of the role more than 59 years has. 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